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Government Motors: GM Stock Hits New Low, Taxpayer Loss Hits $35 Billion

Investors.com -- General Motors (GM) shares closed down 1.5% to 19.02 on Monday, hitting 18.85 intraday. That's the lowest since the U.S. auto giant came public again in November 2010 at 33 a share.

That raises the taxpayer loss on the GM bailout to just shy of $35 billion. Here's the math:

GM doesn't have to pay back anything else, but taxpayers are still out $26.4 billion in direct aid. The Treasury still owns 26.5% of GM — 500 million shares. The stock would have to rise to about 53 to break-even on that direct aid. At the current price, the Treasury's stake is worth just $9.51 billion. (Taxpayers lose $5 million for each penny that GM stock falls).

That would leave taxpayers out $16.9 billion. But the true cost is much higher.

President Obama let GM keep $45 billion worth in past losses...

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Submitted Jul 25, 2012 By: Packrsbeatdabrs

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RONALD777 Champion Author Houston Posts:2,427 Points:361,780 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 3:43:05 PM Ignore RONALD777 Report Abuse Thank you Obama.
markbaily Champion Author Vancouver Posts:2,928 Points:384,560 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:39:41 AM Ignore markbaily Report Abuse Typical US government. You guys should all come live in Canada.
gas_too_high Champion Author Columbus Posts:11,528 Points:1,931,165 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 7:00:25 AM Ignore gas_too_high Report Abuse Had GM been allowed to go into Chapter 7 bankruptcy, most of its plants would have been bought up by other makers, who would have reemployed most of its workers. But the expensive UAW contracts would have been nullified. Even if the plants recertified with the UAW, negotiations would have started from scratch. The Obama bailout of GM (and Chrysler) was really a gift to the UAW, and an unfair one. Besides letting them keep some portion of their lavish contracts, other creditors, like bondholders, were stiffed. GTH
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,458 Points:661,000 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 11:05:38 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Bailouts don't work. Should have let them go belly up. Thanks Mr. President. Maybe it's time for you to into forced retirement.
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,734 Points:981,275 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 11:04:03 PM Ignore nru Report Abuse So let's just let the auto industry go the way of the dinosaurs and buy everything from CHINA - they could supply us with cars cheaper, and then after that we could buy our military hardware from them for cheap too - what a great country. Pocketbook, party, country - oh wait, that's not my oath - something about God, corps, country.... oh well, let's go to Wal Mart for some more Chinese stuff - cheaper than American - commies are great!!!
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:554,730 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 11:02:41 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Thats not good, the volt did it. :-)
umitb Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,665 Points:841,490 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:59:20 PM Ignore umitb Report Abuse ok
ty58 Veteran Author Akron Posts:320 Points:483,030 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:58:58 PM Ignore ty58 Report Abuse it'll go back up
srchr Champion Author San Jose Posts:7,238 Points:1,617,125 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:57:19 PM Ignore srchr Report Abuse pure politix - courting the union vote
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jlisk1970_us Sophomore Author St. Louis Posts:233 Points:94,930 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:41:29 PM Ignore jlisk1970_us Report Abuse Check out the dealerships. They won't sell the vehicles unless they are going to get plenty for it.
DrLyon Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,645 Points:1,210,255 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:36:41 PM Ignore DrLyon Report Abuse What's up.... GM is building better cars... Come on stock market...
TxPDawg All-Star Author Austin Posts:654 Points:378,560 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:34:25 PM Ignore TxPDawg Report Abuse 9.51 Billion dollars, that's billion with a B.. Now that's a lot of money. Send me some!!
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Beaveronparade Champion Author Hartford Posts:2,099 Points:633,180 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:31:46 PM Ignore Beaveronparade Report Abuse That's why so many people say, "No bailouts"!
saleboss Champion Author Phoenix Posts:3,929 Points:1,177,875 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:27:47 PM Ignore saleboss Report Abuse I think we should let them go under for good this time!
Jeannemarie Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:27,700 Points:2,035,640 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:26:35 PM Ignore Jeannemarie Report Abuse I really think they had no intention of paying anything back, just to keep their fat checks coming in.
Vette1967 Champion Author Albany Posts:5,957 Points:1,274,050 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:26:08 PM Ignore Vette1967 Report Abuse Where did all that money go??
bigdipperMS Champion Author Mississippi Posts:1,507 Points:535,800 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:25:12 PM Ignore bigdipperMS Report Abuse Another wonderful deal struck by Obomanation. Fire him in November!!!
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,055 Points:1,729,430 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:24:52 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse very good the original stock holders were run over by OBAMA the new one deserve the same
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,794 Points:1,841,500 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:21:15 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Not good.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,912 Points:1,573,030 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:18:21 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse and based on the "approved" account methods that are now employed at GM, exect a cash flow crisis and another bankruptcy filing in the relatively near future.
Tekkersmom57 Champion Author Syracuse Posts:1,869 Points:699,240 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:17:27 PM Ignore Tekkersmom57 Report Abuse I don't understand how the CEOs and Executives at GM can possibly continue to receive the exorbitant amount of bonuses they had in the past. It just doesn't seem right that we, the American people bail them out and then pat them on the back and say....good job, here's a bonus!
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:3,248 Points:585,500 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:15:42 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse Great post by mcmonsta!!!!!
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:15,531 Points:2,451,990 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:14:39 PM Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse Hold on there cowboys. Our President is touting how good a job he did investing our money in GM. The president of GM came on TV to tell us that they were now profitable. So how could the loss now hit $35,000,000,000.00?
petrpuck All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:559 Points:417,060 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:13:14 PM Ignore petrpuck Report Abuse oh oh
Bonito Champion Author Dayton Posts:15,740 Points:3,005,945 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:13:07 PM Ignore Bonito Report Abuse Though this was political! I get enough of this crap on TV!
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DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,610 Points:3,492,755 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:11:51 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Obama touts the bailout of GM; yet we taxpayers are continuing to pay for this poor decision.
itsjustme719 All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:611 Points:597,700 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:08:25 PM Ignore itsjustme719 Report Abuse Time to fire some of the upper management!
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,217 Points:816,595 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:06:27 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse make their executives pay it back with their cars houses investments...aren't they the ones who got GM there in the first place..or is there no blame any more!!!
Palantas All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:803 Points:412,345 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:06:23 PM Ignore Palantas Report Abuse Too bad. Seems they're making decent cars these days.
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:12,188 Points:2,347,470 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:04:07 PM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse I hope they collapse and take the UAW with them!
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letmathe Champion Author Chicago Posts:14,311 Points:3,130,820 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:02:35 PM Ignore letmathe Report Abuse Focus2 ... thanks for the clarification.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,918,255 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:00:15 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse Bonanza said, Ford is the only American auto maker that did not take taxpayer money That is not true, as they also accepted a government loan.
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iceman11 Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,715 Points:536,425 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:56:36 PM Ignore iceman11 Report Abuse Crazy
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KhelbenArunson Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,433 Points:715,875 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:54:23 PM Ignore KhelbenArunson Report Abuse Hmmm
mitchell6597 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,462 Points:728,360 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:54:03 PM Ignore mitchell6597 Report Abuse Um, I bought a Toyota.....
seeyardee Champion Author Sacramento Posts:9,087 Points:1,803,450 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:53:03 PM Ignore seeyardee Report Abuse Don't feel bad for the stock market investors. They've been making money for years. And what's $35 billion? One day of war?
CapNC Veteran Author North Carolina Posts:392 Points:360,385 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:52:18 PM Ignore CapNC Report Abuse If I buy a new car it will be a Ford, took it like a man - didn't bend over for the nut in washington
aalix Champion Author Orange County Posts:23,173 Points:4,120,420 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:50:23 PM Ignore aalix Report Abuse GM still a drain to taxpayers.