ekelly7
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2011 6:56:00 AM
nteresting
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melvindale
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2011 10:03:24 PM
Wow!
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DasAuto92
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2011 12:25:04 PM
I owned 1 GM .....in my view that was 1 too many
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PapaHomer
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2011 3:08:19 PM
Curious, since most manufacturers make their bread and butter on Trucks and SUVs.
Gas taxes are regressive....they hit the poor and working class the hardest.
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jes
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2011 6:51:39 AM
So the guy has an opinion. Doesn't mean anything. It's just his view and he happens to be the CEO of GM.
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mattsage
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2011 6:39:58 AM
I will always buy GM. They are by far the best American car manufacturer. Don't really care about the article.
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FIREJKP22
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2011 8:13:28 AM
GM are complete idiots.
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lonesouth
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2011 8:03:11 AM
I'm afraid I'll be just like my grandfather for the rest of my life. After fighting in the pacific theater in WWII, he refused to by anything Japanese. For him, it was principle. I won't say that the GM bailout is the same as WWII, but it has tainted my view of GM to the point that I will not ever own a post bailout GM vehicle. They should have failed. The market would be fine and those employees would be re-employed by the competition. GM is still, and always will be, a failure in my eyes. They are now just an extension of the failing administration and statements like these from the CEO are just a finger on the arm of propaganda.
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farrot
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2011 5:57:01 AM
I do not buy American cars. Simply speaking, they fall apart before other foreign cars.
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Pitbull1
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2011 4:56:13 PM
America has said all this crap since the first oil embargo in 1973. All crap! I have purchase GM cars for 30 years and will continue to do so. Many great Americans work for GM, Suppliers, and companies that help build American autos. I wouldn't buy anything but a GM, possibly a Ford. All the GM cars I currently own or have owned have been great long lasting vehicles. GM, Ford, Chrysler, and the Asian craps will all build what people buy. All the hype is just that, hype. GM keep building your great cars. I own 4 of them right now and will buy more in the future!
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dj_morton
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2011 2:30:43 PM
hmm
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gvan
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2011 8:46:53 AM
"They think that would force more people to buy their newest flop, the volt."
I don't think the Volt is a flop but I was surprised that they are selling well.
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gvan
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2011 8:45:55 AM
"I don't buy anything from GM anyway since I got took to the cleaners by this sorry bunch of morons several years ago. They have put out "lemons" for several years now and presently they are almost as bad as Chrysler."
Apparently you disregard everything Consumer Reports says about GM. Or was it that 1981 Chevy that you bought that was a lemon?
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2011 8:14:03 AM
They think that would force more people to buy their newest flop, the volt.
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2011 8:10:59 AM
I don't buy anything from GM anyway since I got took to the cleaners by this sorry bunch of morons several years ago. They have put out "lemons" for several years now and presently they are almost as bad as Chrysler.
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2011 6:40:26 AM
Dumb idea. Kill the economy. That's this guy's idea of a good idea?
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tgferg67
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2011 9:29:39 PM
How about we link the tax to income to make sure guys like Akerson are paying their fair share.
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2011 10:06:59 AM
It's just government motors putting out the Obama view. Force the hybrids on us.
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gvan
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2011 9:44:59 AM
Bad PR from the CEO but I would not rule out buying a GM car.
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PusaKuting
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2011 8:35:34 AM
No GM cars for me
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97PearlCat
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2011 8:33:11 AM
The CEO is a jerk.
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lovesherboys
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2011 8:21:00 AM
wouldn't buy GM anyway
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magsec123
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2011 7:44:19 AM
No surprise coming from GM
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WTM
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2011 7:06:00 AM
Well said, geoag02.
No SINGLE auto maker is going to STOP making 'inefficient cars' until the market demands it..."we're" the market and, apparently, "we" still like those cars enough to buy them.
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geoag02
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 11:13:30 PM
>>"Why not stop making inefficient cars?"
As soon as people stop buying inefficient cars, the car companies will stop making them.
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CoolPriusGuy
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 10:45:07 PM
No surprise coming from a CEO cruising greater Detroit on the taxpayers’ dime!
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 11:38:39 AM
The GM p r people must have had coronaries when he said that. I would never consider a GM vehicle anyway
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CobraJ
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 9:40:41 AM
Just another reason why I won't buy another GM (General Malfunction) product ever again.
[Edited by: CobraJ at 6/9/2011 10:45:18 AM EST]
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billymac296
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 9:23:50 AM
What a jerk
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rjro
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 8:16:28 AM
no gm for me..
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calypso93
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 8:00:13 AM
Why not stop making inefficient cars?
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 7:56:17 AM
actually, it sounds great, until you think who is going to be in control of the money that it goes to... Why would anyone in their right mind want to give any government agency more money?
What are you thinking....
Personally, I believe this ceo knows that an increase in tax on gas would never happen, at least not a $1. And since GM's number one vehicle is a Silverado, which is a high ticket / profit product, it scares them to think that they are going to have to improve MPG to meet the standards.
Car manufacturers will be making a lot of efforts to get changes made to minimize the cafe requirements....
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ekelly7
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 6:45:55 AM
another view
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eye144144
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 6:20:18 AM
A little sting in the short term will help the country in the long term.
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gvan
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2011 5:30:23 AM
Here's the link:
Increase gas tax, Not fuel efficiency standards
It surprised me that he would make such a statement since there may be some people who would decide to not buy a GM car because of it.
[Edited by: gvan at 6/9/2011 6:32:50 AM EST]
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2011 11:41:57 PM
Tax advocates are lower than whale dung and you know where that is, on the bottom of the ocean.
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cheapmonkee
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2011 7:56:51 PM
There are millions of working poor that would be pinched hard by this, some put into bankruptcy. This would cause runaway hyperinflation...yeah make our day punk.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2011 7:51:34 PM
Well, people are stupid.
They complain about the price of gas, but they still speed, they still call for higher speed limits, they continue to jack-rabbit start from red, they continue to idle vehicles while waiting 15 minutes for the vehicle ahead to clear the car wash, they continue to idle at rail crossings while long trains pass, they still leave the car running while running into 7-Eleven to grab a Slurpee or cigarettes - the price at the pump seems to be the only way to actually get them to pay attention to consumption.
Read the article, it makes sense. Yes, it would hurt, it would be a massive dose of "tough love".
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WTM
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2011 7:39:02 PM
Yea, I saw this on my local morning news...kinda scary, but sometimes the truth hurts.
Even @ $4/gal, people are STILL buying/driving 6 & 8cyl "muscle" cars that are primarily used for 'personal transportation'(myself included!). The auto mfrs are constantly struggling cater to the buyer's demands all the while under Federal pressure to make vehicles more efficient. GM would loose $billions$ if they were foolish enough to get rid of vehicles like the Corvette & Camaro in today's market. The CEO's 'suggestion' does nothing more than express GM's urgency to "downsize" our daily drivers...and it got "our" attention, didn't it? ;)
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cheapmonkee
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2011 7:32:09 PM
Are they not aware of the obvious "unintended consequences" of this action. OMG
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